
Location:
Washington, DC
Networks:
Slate
Description:
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Language:
English
Franklin Foer: Chronicling The Purged
5/13/2026
Today on The Gist, what do UFO disclosures and covert strikes on Iran have in common? They are all part of the great distraction machine. Then, The Atlantic's Franklin Foer joins the show to discuss his recent project, The Purged. The conversation examines the quiet catastrophe of the administration's dismantling of the civil service, and why replacing seasoned experts with partisan appointees leaves the government fundamentally broken. Plus, an analysis of a revealing Pew survey highlighting America's status as a remarkably low-trust society, and the economic inequalities fueling our mutual resentment.
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Duration:00:37:00
David Epstein: Thinking Inside the Box
5/12/2026
Today on The Gist, breaking down how the UAE and Saudi Arabia have been secretly carrying out strikes on Iran, and what this means for U.S. ceasefire efforts, the global oil market, and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. Then, bestselling author David Epstein returns to the show to discuss his new book, Inside The Box: How Constraints Make Us Better. The conversation dissects the myth that boundless freedom fuels creativity, examining the epic failure of the unconstrained tech startup General Magic, how Pixar uses popsicle sticks to force prioritization, and why a lack of strict parameters fueled the scientific community's replication crisis.
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Duration:00:44:55
Kevin Williamson: The Psychotic State of Texas Politics
5/11/2026
Today on the Gist, breaking down Energy Secretary Chris Wright's masterclass in dodging gas price predictions on Meet the Press amid the ongoing conflict with Iran. Then, The Dispatch's Kevin Williamson joins the show to discuss the eccentric, radicalized, and "just about psychotic" state of Texas politics. They dive into the bitter Republican primary battle between incumbent Senator John Cornyn and the scandal-plagued Attorney General Ken Paxton, analyze the Democratic challengers, and explore why affluent suburbanites are driving the state's populist and secessionist movements.
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Duration:00:45:55
Finding Political Kryptonite with Paula Poundstone
5/9/2026
On this Saturday crossover episode, Mikes recent guest spot on Nobody Listens to Paula Poundstone takes center stage. Alongside Paula Poundstone and Adam Felber, the search is on for the current administration's ultimate political "kryptonite." The trio hilariously debates what it will actually take to move the needle with voters—from 4th amendment violations and congressional roundtables to the Epstein files and soaring gas prices.
Listen to the entire episode Here: EP 408: Finding Kryptonite with Mike Pesca! • Paula Poundstone
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Duration:00:34:35
Benjamin Saltzman: The Art of Turning Away
5/8/2026
Today on the Gist, why cruise ships are essentially floating vessels of exclusively bad news. Then, University of Chicago professor Benjamin A. Saltzman joins the show to discuss his book, Turning Away: The Poetics of an Ancient Gesture. He explores the artistic and emotional history of averting our gaze—and why looking away often signals profound engagement rather than indifference. Finally, in the Antwentig, a reality check on the gun control debate and the historical flaws in comparing it to the Civil Rights movement.
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Duration:00:41:04
Not Even Mad: Russ Muirhead & Ben Dreyfuss
5/7/2026
Today on the Gist, the US intelligence assessment of the Iran blockade, and why the current administration lacks the attention span for a prolonged overseas conflict. Then, Dartmouth professor Russ Muirhead and Calm Down author Ben Dreyfuss join the panel for another round of Not Even Mad. The trio tackles the media's catastrophizing of political violence, the electoral baggage of RFK Jr.'s fringe health initiatives, and a radical proposal to fix Congress by expanding the House of Representatives.
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Duration:00:57:17
Jonathan Vigliotti: The Olympic Rush to Rebuild LA
5/6/2026
Today on the Gist, why ten-dollar words like "instantiation" might sound smart but ultimately fail to connect with an audience. Then, CBS News correspondent Jonathan Vigliotti joins the show to discuss his book, Torched: How a City Was Left to Burn and the Olympic Rush to Rebuild LA. He breaks down the devastating Los Angeles wildfires, the catastrophic absence of city leadership during the crisis, and how a desperate rush to prep for the Summer Games led to a dangerous, deregulated rebuild.
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Duration:00:43:26
Joseph Moore: Negotiating With Drug Dealers for Real Estate Success
5/5/2026
Today on the Gist, Robert F. Kennedy's initiative to get Americans off psychiatric medications and the political consequences of elevating fringe health issues. Then, Joseph Moore returns to discuss his book, How to Get Rich in American History. He breaks down the realities of economic mobility versus the "despair industrial complex," the difference between fast and slow time in wealth building, and how treating distressed real estate like a true business led to his own financial independence. Finally, in the spiel, the Met Gala protests and what high-fashion critiques of figures reveal about political bias.
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Duration:00:29:48
Joseph Moore: The Despair Industrial Complex
5/4/2026
Today on the Gist, parsing terrible geology analogies about gas prices dropping "like a rock" when they are actually shooting up like a rocket. Then, Joseph S. Moore joins the show to discuss his book, How to Get Rich in American History: 300 Years of Financial Advice That Worked and Didn't. He details his personal journey from a broke history graduate student to financial success, and breaks down centuries of American financial schemes, from 19th-century paper currencies to the modern "despair industrial complex." Finally, in the spiel, an analysis of former nuclear arms negotiator Wendy Sherman's recent BBC interview, and what the Obama administration's eagerness to secure the Iran nuclear deal reveals about American negotiation tactics and leverage.
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Duration:00:37:42
Ethan Strauss: Great Writers, Bad Thinkers, and the Death of the Sports Gamer
5/2/2026
Mike and Ethan Strauss joined to talk on Substack and they talked about Ethan's 4:00 a.m. "rise and grind" writing routine, the frustrating trend of "great writers, bad thinkers" across the media landscape, and the unique cultural heat that drives the WNBA's popularity. They also dive into the lost art of the "gamer," mourning the slow death of the rapid-fire, post-game sports recaps that once defined the industry.
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Duration:00:54:34
Liz Hoffman: Why We Are So Pessimistic About a Resilient Economy
5/1/2026
Today on the Gist, digging into the rhetoric around California's Proposition 36 and examining how advocacy groups frame low-level arrest statistics to push the narrative of mass incarceration. Then, Semafor's Business and Finance editor and Compound Interest podcast co-host Liz Hoffman returns to the show. She discusses the bizarre disconnect between a strong economy and sour consumer sentiment, the fading legal backlash against social media companies, and how the massive wealth generated by AI startups could severely worsen the wealth gap. Finally, in the spiel, an analysis of the California gubernatorial race and why Katie Porter is struggling in the polls despite her high name recognition, viral moments, and status as the only woman on the debate stage.
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Duration:00:37:32
Liz Hoffman: Will AI Trigger a Jobless Food Fight?
4/30/2026
Today on the Gist, assessing the political fallout from the Supreme Court's Callais decision striking down majority minority congressional districts. Then, Semafor's Business and Finance editor and Compound Interest podcast co-host Liz Hoffman joins the show. She breaks down the economic realities of the AI revolution, the fierce ideological battles between tech titans like Elon Musk and Sam Altman, and why the Pentagon is treating Anthropic as a supply chain risk. Finally, in the spiel, a look at California's Proposition 36 and how the media's framing of a return to mass incarceration ignores the statistical reality of the state's prison population.
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Duration:00:36:27
Suzy Hansen: How The Syrian War Radicalized Erdoğan
4/29/2026
Today on the Gist, a look at the recent security incident at the White House Correspondents' Dinner and why Donald Trump's demand for a new White House ballroom draws striking parallels to his infamous border wall. Then, American journalist Suzy Hansen joins the show to discuss her new book, From Life Itself: Turkey, Istanbul, and a Neighborhood in the Age of Erdoğan. She details how a massive influx of Syrian refugees transformed a historic Istanbul neighborhood, how Erdoğan leveraged the crisis against Europe to fuel his neo-Ottoman ambitions, and the devastating consequences of his economic house of cards.
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Duration:00:41:11
Ted Dintersmith: The Life-Changing Math Schools Ignore
4/28/2026
Today on the Gist, examining the confusing details and conspiracy theories surrounding the recent Washington press corps assailant. Then, Ted Dintersmith joins to discuss his book, Aftermath: The Life-Changing Math That Schools Won't Teach You. He explains why schools are stuck teaching outdated rote mechanics instead of crucial life concepts like compound interest, and what America can learn from Finland's approach. Finally, in the spiel, a deep dive into the politically motivated indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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Duration:00:43:43
Richard Lapper: Why Lula Didn't Become a Chavista
4/27/2026
Today on the Gist, reflecting on the president's black tie press conference remarks about accepting political violence, and why our media ecosystem consistently selects for radical sentiment over the sensible. Then, Richard Lapper, former Latin American editor for the Financial Times, joins the show to discuss his new book, Lula: The Man, the Myth, and a Dream of Latin America. A look into how Lula da Silva's trade union pragmatism and commitment to economic stability transformed Brazil, allowing him to succeed where other Latin American populist movements failed. Finally, in the spiel, an examination of the recent attempted assassination at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, the resulting media reactions, and the harsh, unyielding realities of the American gun violence epidemic.
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Duration:00:38:39
Mike Pesca Might Be Wrong & The Art of Korean Rock Throwing
4/25/2026
It's the Saturday show! First, we pull a recent appearance: Mike joins Jeff Maurer on the I Might Be Wrong podcast. They debate Mike's recent Free Press article, "What Kind of Autocrat Loses an Election?", dissecting the definition of authoritarianism, Viktor Orban’s defeat in Hungary, and whether pundits are overstating the threat to American democracy. Then, in the spiel, Mike dives into the deep, brutal, and historically ineffective tradition of expert Korean stone throwers.
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Duration:00:34:00
Maya Kornberg on How Congress Got Stuck
4/24/2026
Today on the Gist, the US and Iran are supposedly in peace talks, but the real terror might just be the Iranian Navy's choice of "loose ski masks." Then, Maya Kornberg from the Brennan Center for Justice joins the show to discuss her new book, Stuck: How Money, Media, and Violence Prevent Change in Congress. A look back at wave elections, like the class of '74 and the '94 Gingrich revolution, explains how procedural changes, centralized party power, and the gutting of independent expertise have led to today's dysfunctional legislative branch. Finally, in the spiel, looking back at the blocked JetBlue-Spirit Airlines merger now that the Trump administration is proposing a government bailout for the failing carrier.
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Duration:00:33:32
Not Even Mad: Sarada Peri & Sarah Isgur
4/23/2026
Today on the Gist, Mike is joined by Sarada Peri, former speechwriter for President Obama, and Sarah Isgur, senior editor at SCOTUSblog and author of Last Branch Standing, for a new installment of Not Even Mad. The trio discusses the Virginia redistricting vote, how concerning the "shadow docket" really is, and Kash Patel's lawsuit against The Atlantic. Finally, in Goat Grinders: boarding times, bad Bruce Springsteen lyrics, and the endless construction of the Purple Line.
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Duration:01:01:33
Jennifer Shahade on the Grandmaster of Intermezzos: Donald Trump
4/22/2026
Today on the Gist, looking at the recent Virginia gerrymander vote and what it actually means for democracy when one side plays to win. Then, chess master and poker pro Jennifer Shahade joins the show to discuss her new book, Thinking Sideways: How to Think Like a Chess Player and Win at Life. We discuss why Donald Trump's political maneuvering might actually be a series of strategic "intermezzos," why "zugzwang" explains so many personal crises, and the unexpected reality of speed chess dating.
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Jonathan Cheng on the Realities of Uncovering North Korea
4/21/2026
Today on the Gist, exploring the consequences of relocating Afghan allies to the Democratic Republic of Congo. Then, Wall Street Journal China Bureau Chief Jonathan Cheng is back to discuss the complexities of reporting on a closed society like North Korea, the strategic thinking behind the Kim dynasty's ruthless tactics, and what it’s actually like to attend church in Pyongyang. He is the author of Korean Messiah: Kim Il Sung and the Christian Roots of North Korea's Personality Cult. Finally, in the spiel, we dive into the fascinating, brutal, and ultimately ineffective history of expert Korean stone throwers.
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